tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post5232754381222183916..comments2023-11-05T07:01:05.247-05:00Comments on Maureen McGowan's Blog: Pitch HellMaureen McGowanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00494408580378817045noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post-54046994497042201282007-05-29T13:03:00.000-04:002007-05-29T13:03:00.000-04:00Very good point that there are WAY more books publ...Very good point that there are WAY more books published each year than TV shows/movies being made. I never thought about it that way. :-)<BR/><BR/>Let's hope someday I can be one of those authors who makes a decent living off of her writing. For now, I'll make do with a few thousand a year.Kris Etonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00822791622754789365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post-12032661614521701432007-05-29T08:45:00.000-04:002007-05-29T08:45:00.000-04:00Exactly, Kris. Entry-level screenwriters are likel...Exactly, Kris. Entry-level screenwriters are likely making more money than entry level novelists. But there are far far far far far fewer of them!<BR/><BR/>It's simply a case of scale. There are astoundingly fewer movies/films produced each year than there are books published (thousands and thousands of times fewer!), therefore there are many many fewer screenwriters making money on screenplays and television scripts than there are authors making money on books. And each film is likely seen by many more people. Therefore, the script is worth more money. <BR/><BR/>And yes, the movie business is more unionized -- we novelists should get on that! However, I actually know plenty of writers who are making a living wage off of their work. Probably more than those who have a day job as well. <BR/><BR/>However, as I said before, money is not my major concern here -- though it may have seemed that way from my remark about what other people say to me. It's about creative control, and I think you get more in the book world. Most of Tess's post doesn't even deal with money -- it deals with the changes the executives wanted to make to her script. I know plenty of novelists who took a stab at screenwriting, and realized that biz was beyond them. Or novelists (like Rob Thomas) who were happy either way. Or novelists who have had a great deal of success in that world but have yet to break through with any of their screenplays.Diana Peterfreundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03681841474717604660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post-89476672667595677132007-05-25T08:55:00.000-04:002007-05-25T08:55:00.000-04:00Diana,I guess what I meant was, there is a set amo...Diana,<BR/><BR/>I guess what I meant was, there is a set amount of money that a union writer will get paid in Hollywood for her work. And I misquoted the amount, it was a little bit over $30,000. How many writers (of books) can claim that kind of advance? There are plenty of newbie authors who don't even make $10,000 on a book. <BR/><BR/>So, I can see where a writer might think it would be easier to make MORE money writing something for Hollywood, whether it be a series, a movie, or a tv show, rather than risk making a lot less writing a book.<BR/><BR/>Not everyone is lucky enough to have their book go to auction and end up with a deal that allows them to write full-time. Most authors have other full-time jobs and write when they have time off.Kris Etonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00822791622754789365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post-67070670257600707652007-05-24T22:50:00.000-04:002007-05-24T22:50:00.000-04:00We had very similiar blog thoughts today...lolWe had very similiar blog thoughts today...lolKristen Painterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07984459504977637298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post-89505562483803949962007-05-24T19:05:00.000-04:002007-05-24T19:05:00.000-04:00I'm not talking about a TV movie, and I would NEVE...I'm not talking about a TV movie, and I would NEVER say "where the money is." LOL! Films, I would imagine, work the same,whether they are features, made-for-TV, or straight-to-DVD. <BR/><BR/>I'm talking about television series, and specifically about being a show runner, the way Rob Thomas is.<BR/><BR/>Thomas's website and the new book Neptune Noir goes into a lot of detail about the development.Diana Peterfreundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03681841474717604660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post-57949027305441386532007-05-24T18:03:00.000-04:002007-05-24T18:03:00.000-04:00Oh, and Diana and everyone else, go visit Tess Ger...Oh, and Diana and everyone else, go visit Tess Gerritsen's blog where she discusses writing for television. She also believe at one time 'that's where the money is.' I guess under union rules the base pay for a tv movie script is $30,000. Sounds good, huh?<BR/><BR/>Well read all about her nightmare getting her story off the ground and actually filmed. It will give you pause, if you are considering going this route.<BR/><BR/>Here's a link to her post about it:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://tessgerritsen.com/blog/2006/08/20/why-i-feel-sorry-for-screenwriters/" REL="nofollow">Click me!</A>Kris Etonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00822791622754789365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post-2425542788549832372007-05-24T17:55:00.000-04:002007-05-24T17:55:00.000-04:00I was also floored that these supposed professiona...I was also floored that these supposed professionals were not prepared to do something like pitch a film idea. And they are professionals, they just are big fish in the ocean yet. They know how to make a film.<BR/><BR/>At least writers understand that at some point in your career you need to be able to pitch an idea to an agent or editor. <BR/><BR/>Their lack of skills in this area were laughable. And some of their ideas were bizarro. My Lord. <BR/><BR/>I think this is going to be a very fascinating show to watch. The whole idea of it is very close to what us writers do, so we can sympathize a lot with what they go through.Kris Etonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00822791622754789365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post-71490796472737590052007-05-24T16:52:00.000-04:002007-05-24T16:52:00.000-04:00Loved it! Loved it like I loved the finale of Lost...Loved it! Loved it like I loved the finale of Lost last night -- there is hope for summer television.<BR/><BR/>I was just amazed at how after Bret told them what they needed -- they still couldn't get it together.Molly O'Keefehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15171236688541657736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post-88850390496223548752007-05-24T11:49:00.000-04:002007-05-24T11:49:00.000-04:00I missed it!! I totally forgot it was on and now I...I missed it!! I totally forgot it was on and now I'll have to try and "find" it somewhere. <BR/><BR/>I really wanted to see the pitches too.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12777733587200293442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post-58266350657488176472007-05-24T11:24:00.000-04:002007-05-24T11:24:00.000-04:00That's very interesting, Diana. No wonder the bett...That's very interesting, Diana. No wonder the better written stuff is on TV these days.Maureen McGowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00494408580378817045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post-71740027453136250592007-05-24T08:57:00.000-04:002007-05-24T08:57:00.000-04:00I feel the same way you do. People are always sayi...I feel the same way you do. People are always saying to me, "Why don't you write screenplays? That's where the real money is." And then I say, "Quick, name me five screenwriters who aren't also directors -- i.e., Orson Welles and M. Night Shamaylan don't count."<BR/><BR/>Screenwriters aren't the creators of movies. They write them and go home. Directors are in charge.<BR/><BR/>HOWEVER, I've been reading the website of Rob Thomas (Veronica Mars) who got his start as a YA author for S&S, and realized that, in *television*, the writer is the one in control. The writer is the one who chooses the cast, the sets, the costumes, etc. There's something I could do.<BR/><BR/>And where is the most interesting stuff happening in the world of video media? Television, not films. Coincidence? I think not.Diana Peterfreundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03681841474717604660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24994577.post-3606192858331830322007-05-24T08:40:00.000-04:002007-05-24T08:40:00.000-04:00Hmmm... I understand the huge downside of pursuing...Hmmm... I understand the huge downside of pursuing script writing isntead of novel writing but when I see somebody's passion for films - like you and my dh - I just want to be able to encourage you to go for what's in your heart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com